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Old 18th November 2009, 07:18 PM
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Thumbs up MARCH FOR DEMOCRACY 21st November 1.30pm Auckland

You and your families are invited to:

THE MARCH FOR DEMOCRACY
21st of November 1.30pm
Cnr Queen & Fort Streets Auckland


Live Music, balloons, prizes for the best banners.

Check out the website The March For Democracy There is information on:
Free buses organised to get to the event
Banners and signs ideas
Virtual March - if you cant make it, register for the virtual march!

This is your opportunity to make your VOTE really count, other wise what is the point of Democracy, join the masses and be a part of history!
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Old 19th November 2009, 01:54 AM
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Oh I'd so love to be there. But Auckland, not fair, why does it always have to be in Auckland?

I really can't afford to travel half way up the country for that. Sorry.

However, I do hope others will be there and tell us southerners what it is all about.

Good luck with it.
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Old 19th November 2009, 11:26 AM
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Default Ideas for Signs or Banners

Anyone got any ideas for "witty signs or banners"

The ones we have come up with so far might be a bit corny?
Any input would be great
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Old 21st November 2009, 02:32 PM
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What? Only "hundreds", I would have thought there would be "thousands".

Was that figure downplayed?

Hundreds march over government inaction | Stuff.co.nz
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Old 21st November 2009, 06:11 PM
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Well there were a lot of people there, but there certainly "could" or "should" have been more. The Media are completely down palying the whole thing. One News tried to say people marching had so many different agendas and implied that it wasn't even for democracy. The mere fact that there were several agendas being represented was a fantastic display of "democracy" in its self. All agendas i saw, were all related to failing democracy in one way or another.

The Media are so biased in this country. I can't be bothered listening to what they say anymore. The NZ Herald made a poor attempt to boycott it aswell by mispublishing the event name on Friday. And after several complaints (including one from myself) they gave some feeble excuse, it was a mistake made during editing.

NZ'ers need to wake up. We have a "do nothing" society. And that needs to change.

Our signs were
"WARNING - POLICE STATE"
and the Other Said
"DEMOCRACY NOT DICTATORSHIP ........ Change the Locks on Key"
We had a lot of people come up and talk to us about our signs. The Police State sign got a lot of people taking photos and talking to us about it thats for sure. All of whom were concerned that we were loosing our rights, and a police state could be on the cards.

I find it so hard to fathom that the Media can take such a biased stance on the issue. After 3 Major Referendum in this Country with overwhelming outcomes, the government refeuses to listen to its citizens. How can that be interpreted any other way, other than then government thinks it knows "better" than its citizens, and will "dictate" to us what is best.

Im sure this will Not be the END...... To Be Continued
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Old 21st November 2009, 11:22 PM
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I don't know why the media is so biased. I've stopped reading their stuff because a lot of it reminds me of something out of a Dickens novel, pure "Pickwich Papers" stuff, but they take it so seriously.

We are fast losing control of our society. Our main enemy is not the government, or the media, it is public apathy. Typically people see something wrong, grumble about it for a while, then go back to watching their favourite soap opera. Are we really so dumbed down or "spaced out" on fluoride that we think nothing outside what is happening on "coronation street" is important?

We have definitely lost control of our government. Maybe it was always the way it was, but I'm sure it was never so blatant before. It is about time people got over their "vote them out" mentality or stopped chanting "you didn't vote, therefore you have no right to complain", and realised that the faces might change but the agenda never does. Members of parliament did a lot of complaining about Helen Clark's control-freak legislation, but I see nothing that she imposed on us has been overturned.

I think it started (in about the 1960s - but I can't be sure because I can find NOTHING at all on this subject, in books, newspaper articles or on the 'net) when someone decided that being an MP should be a full-time job. They used the excuse that "everybody no matter what their financial situation should be able to be an MP". Then someone else decided that we "needed" to greatly increase the number of MPs in the House, and all of a sudden we were over-run with parasites all feeding greedily out of the public trough. We also have to realise that the FIRST loyalty of an MP is not to his constituents but to parlaiment and his party. It is the same with the police, they have no obligation at all to protect the people of NZ, and owe their allegience entirely to government, and exist entirely to carry out government policies.

As for the anti-democracy, anti-people, agenda. I have seen it slowly creeping in in UK where peoples' rights have incrementally been taken away from them and they haven't objected - mainly because they have been convinced that it is "only them over there" who would be affected (i.e. the "yobs" and "shameless people"). Now for UK it is all too late to do anything about it. I see the leader of the Tory party - who most likely will get elected into government next year - has said that he will "get rid of the id card scheme/scam" and "dismantle the database state", but then he has also pledged to continue with biometric passports, backed by a central database of biometric data. Sound like "getting rid of any database states, to you? So anything is possible, including them outright lying and after the election merely saying "ha, ha, we tricked you". Isn't that what John Key has done with the referendum on MMP?

Unfortunately what ever happens in UK, happens here pretty soon after. I was listening to a talkback radio programme on the new "nark line" that the police have set up in Auckland (although I don't know why I bother with talkback any more, all the good hosts are gone to be replaced by the most obsequious government-propaganda-parroters you could get). Anyway, it seemed that this "nark line" (I can't remember what it was really called) was a copy of "one that had been so successful in UK" and was supervised by a visiting moron from UK.

America is another western country that we get a lot of our influences from. They have lost their human rights slowly over the past few years too. Some absolutely horrendous things happen in America, it is so bad that I have stopped reading their news sites - it is too depressing.

We all have to get off the couch, stop idolising the TV set, and grab our country back before it is too late.

We could start by trying to get our own MPs to vote against this idiotic ET scheme that they were debating not long ago. And get it through to John Key that he has not got the backing of the people, to ratify the Copenhagen treaty.
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